kim kardashian, and drew carry, and miley cyrus, the list is long of entertainers that came to the defense and the horror of the trayvon martin verdict, and they are also silent. i cannot sit here and say i rely only on reverend sharpton who has escorted -- >> i don't have the regard many of my colleagues do, but i think this is -- larry, i think this is just really kind of a -- that problem seems too big to be grasps by a sound bite or by a protest. >> you hit the nail on your head when you talked about how easy it is to yell and scream about race and racism. if it were about race and racism and poverty you would expect during jim crow and the great depression to be more crime now. and i was telling this to don lemon the other day, and cnn did a poll of black teenagers, and they asked whether racism was a major problem in america and they agree with your guest, mrs. green, that it was, and then they asked a follow-up, and that is that is race and racism a problem in your own daily hraoeuz, and 89% said no problem in their own daily lives. what is going on is black leaders find it easy to